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FA Cup - Sheff Utd v Rovers

Post by mrblackbat » Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:23 pm

Just going to say, that shouldn't be a penalty.

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Post by mrblackbat » Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:55 pm

Hmm, JDT got the subs a bit wrong there. Were comfortable up to the 80th minute but switching to a back five lost all momentum almost immediately.

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Post by mcteeth » Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:39 pm

That felt a bit cruel.

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Post by Ethiaa » Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:43 am

Gah. On the plus side I was frustrated enough after that to overcome my pizza induced carb coma and go for a run so some good came of it.

So winnable though :|

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Post by mcteeth » Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:21 am

Hedges is inches from making it 1-3 as was Gally possibly so it's bit of a heartbreaker.

Also if you wanted to whinge Robinson should have seen a second yellow in the first half and game should have been stopped before third goal. But oh well.

Making myself feel better by knowing how anticlimactic a semi final against City would have been :hyper:

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Post by Ethiaa » Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:46 am

Taken as part of the season as a whole, it's all good so far. I'm holding on to the big picture which is positive.

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Post by mrblackbat » Mon Mar 20, 2023 11:37 am

mcteeth wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:39 pm
That felt a bit cruel.
I dunno. We invited it with the defensive sub when not really under threat.

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Post by mrblackbat » Mon Mar 20, 2023 11:40 am

mcteeth wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:21 am
Hedges is inches from making it 1-3 as was Gally possibly so it's bit of a heartbreaker.

Also if you wanted to whinge Robinson should have seen a second yellow in the first half and game should have been stopped before third goal. But oh well.

Making myself feel better by knowing how anticlimactic a semi final against City would have been :hyper:
I don't think he should have had a yellow at the pen (I don't think it should even be handball, but there we go; players can't just make their arms disappear and he wasn't trying to block the ball with his arm. Having said that, Willian did something similar and got a red. Plus a red for his manager and Mitrovic....).

And Morton shouldn't have been so soft, looked like absolutely nothing.

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Post by Ethiaa » Mon Mar 20, 2023 1:54 pm

The handball implementation is now utterly farcical. It's a total coin toss how a decision might go.

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Post by mrblackbat » Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:12 pm

Bit like offside.

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Post by Ethiaa » Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:46 pm

I find those a little more logical although the reason for it being used is no longer apparently a factor in the application of the rule making for stupid outcomes in the wider context of a game situation. So maybe you are right.

Fuck me, I miss the old days when you could punch the left back while your mate flicked the refs ear and then slide challenge the keeper to get the ball into the back of the net. And that was just in the cricket.

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Post by mrblackbat » Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:48 am

I find nothing logical about offside anymore

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Post by Ethiaa » Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:57 am

I suspect that's because you haven't embraced the application of a rule entirely for the sake of its own existence and are still getting distracted by the game in which that rule is embedded, as if it's expected to serve some sort of useful function there. Clarity is achieved by letting go of such mortal concerns and succumbing to the infinity of degrees by which a player's finger can be offside.

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Post by mrblackbat » Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:08 am

Yeah, that'll be it.

I keep applying it to the issue of "goal hanging" which the rule currently doesn't really prohibit.....

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Post by mcteeth » Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:54 pm

I still don't see all the fuss about the handball decision. I agree that the law is the problem, but with VAR there referees are just implementing the law as currently stated. Therefore it was a clear penalty, it's been like that for a couple of seasons now in the Premier League now that they have VAR.

From the FA:

"touches the ball with their hand/arm when it has made their body unnaturally bigger. A player is considered to have made their body unnaturally bigger when the position of their hand/arm is not a consequence of, or justifiable by, the player’s body movement for that specific situation. By having their hand/arm in such a position, the player takes a risk of their hand/arm being hit by the ball and being penalised"

I agree that part of the law is stupid and overly subjective but it was a penalty, Gally shoots and his shout is goalbound and Robinson's arm moves towards the ball and that has made his body unnaturally bigger. :shrug:

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