New Manager poll - select your top three choices

Discuss all things Rovers related except...

Next Manager

Daniel Farke
2
22%
Mark Warburton
1
11%
Dean Syche
0
No votes
Marco Bielsa
1
11%
Gareth Ainsworth
2
22%
Chris Hughton
0
No votes
Phillip Cocu
0
No votes
Damien Johnson
2
22%
Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink
0
No votes
Mick McCarthy
1
11%
Wayne Rooney
0
No votes
Tony Mowbray
0
No votes
Carlos Carvalhal
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 9

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Re: New Manager poll - select your top three choices

Post by Ethiaa » Fri May 13, 2022 8:34 am

mrblackbat wrote:
Thu May 12, 2022 6:54 pm
I'm not sure how we make a verb of ethiaa. It just doesn't really work.

Ethiaa'd. Ethiaa'd.

Nope.

Sorry.
Eth'ed - works on a couple of levels :lol:

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Re: New Manager poll - select your top three choices

Post by Ethiaa » Fri May 13, 2022 8:35 am

Dan wrote:
Thu May 12, 2022 9:52 pm
3. Mr Ste Vekean
This is how he got the job first time around - someone scan reading applications thought that said something else.

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Re: New Manager poll - select your top three choices

Post by Rover the Top » Fri May 20, 2022 9:10 am

mcteeth wrote:
Thu May 12, 2022 1:18 pm


I really don't like this we overachieved so it's okay that we had bottom of the table form for over 3 months.
You don't have to like it, but you're only deluding yourself if you measure what we had against the rest of the teams in the division and conclude we should have done better. I say this about every club that changes its manager, you've got to be honest about the quality and depth of your resources, or else you're not going to meet expectations no matter who is picking the team. What's more likely, our season was derailed because Mowbray suddenly became incompetent, or we couldn't cover for injuries to a few of our key players?

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Re: New Manager poll - select your top three choices

Post by mcteeth » Fri May 20, 2022 4:10 pm

We've had this February slump every season in the Championship with Mowbray and the same thing happened in a season when he was at Middlesbrough... :shrug:

There was only 15 points separating 5th and Swansea in 15th. It's a division of fine margins. Also if depth of resources determines is such a limiting factor how do you explain Luton and Huddersfield?

We're taking about 2 missed penalties and some careless injury time goals conceded between us being 8th and in the play-offs. It is fine margins down to the details of games management and decision making. Is it not Mowbray's responsibility to instill that confidence, belief and dictate how we manage periods of matches?

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Re: New Manager poll - select your top three choices

Post by mcteeth » Tue May 24, 2022 2:30 pm

Ainsworth not on the shortlist thankfully.

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/s ... er-search/

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Re: New Manager poll - select your top three choices

Post by mrblackbat » Tue May 24, 2022 3:26 pm

Why 'thankfully'?

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Post by mcteeth » Wed May 25, 2022 10:31 am

Because it would not be a decision based on footballing reasons as well as what Venky's set out as the things they were looking for when recruiting. It would have been an emotional decision.

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Re: New Manager poll - select your top three choices

Post by mrblackbat » Wed May 25, 2022 9:45 pm

........

:shrug:

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Re: New Manager poll - select your top three choices

Post by Dan » Wed May 25, 2022 10:41 pm

mcteeth wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 2:30 pm
Ainsworth not on the shortlist thankfully.

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/s ... er-search/

https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/b ... h-24035034
Blackburn Rovers will hold interviews with managerial candidates this week, with Carlos Carvalhal and Gareth Ainsworth on the club's shortlist.

As reported by BBC Lancashire, Lancs Live understands that face-to-face talks are lined up this week. The club have not commented on their search for a new manager since confirming the exit of Tony Mowbray.

After sifting through lots of applications, the club will begin interviews with candidates this week. Lancs Live understands that Carvalhal and Ainsworth are amongst those that the club would like to speak to.

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Post by mcteeth » Wed May 25, 2022 10:44 pm

mrblackbat wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 9:45 pm
........

:shrug:
You've yet to actually explain why Ainsworth would be a good appointment... :shrug:

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Post by mcteeth » Wed May 25, 2022 10:46 pm

Dan wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 10:41 pm
mcteeth wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 2:30 pm
Ainsworth not on the shortlist thankfully.

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/s ... er-search/

https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/b ... h-24035034
Blackburn Rovers will hold interviews with managerial candidates this week, with Carlos Carvalhal and Gareth Ainsworth on the club's shortlist.

As reported by BBC Lancashire, Lancs Live understands that face-to-face talks are lined up this week. The club have not commented on their search for a new manager since confirming the exit of Tony Mowbray.

After sifting through lots of applications, the club will begin interviews with candidates this week. Lancs Live understands that Carvalhal and Ainsworth are amongst those that the club would like to speak to.
Sounds like it is Carvalhal.

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Re: New Manager poll - select your top three choices

Post by mrblackbat » Thu May 26, 2022 7:13 am

mcteeth wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 10:44 pm
mrblackbat wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 9:45 pm
........

:shrug:
You've yet to actually explain why Ainsworth would be a good appointment... :shrug:
He's a good manager, by all evidence of his managerial career so far. Anything else required?

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Re: New Manager poll - select your top three choices

Post by mrblackbat » Thu May 26, 2022 8:23 am

mcteeth wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 10:46 pm
Dan wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 10:41 pm
mcteeth wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 2:30 pm
Ainsworth not on the shortlist thankfully.

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/s ... er-search/

https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/b ... h-24035034
Blackburn Rovers will hold interviews with managerial candidates this week, with Carlos Carvalhal and Gareth Ainsworth on the club's shortlist.

As reported by BBC Lancashire, Lancs Live understands that face-to-face talks are lined up this week. The club have not commented on their search for a new manager since confirming the exit of Tony Mowbray.

After sifting through lots of applications, the club will begin interviews with candidates this week. Lancs Live understands that Carvalhal and Ainsworth are amongst those that the club would like to speak to.
Sounds like it is Carvalhal.
Or... Ainsworth? Or neither when they both turn it down :lol:

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Re: New Manager poll - select your top three choices

Post by mcteeth » Thu May 26, 2022 9:09 am

mrblackbat wrote:
Thu May 26, 2022 7:13 am
mcteeth wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 10:44 pm
mrblackbat wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 9:45 pm
........

:shrug:
You've yet to actually explain why Ainsworth would be a good appointment... :shrug:
He's a good manager, by all evidence of his managerial career so far. Anything else required?
Good at what? Having some success in League 2 and League 1 playing an effective but limited style of football?

In the context of Venky's appointing someone to continue the work of Mowbray and how we've developed our squad of players, why would he be a good appointment?

You must have actual reasons why you think he's a good appointment beyond a worse win percentage than Mowbray (predominantly in lower leagues).

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Re: New Manager poll - select your top three choices

Post by Rover the Top » Thu May 26, 2022 9:16 am

mcteeth wrote:
Fri May 20, 2022 4:10 pm
We've had this February slump every season in the Championship with Mowbray and the same thing happened in a season when he was at Middlesbrough... :shrug:

There was only 15 points separating 5th and Swansea in 15th. It's a division of fine margins. Also if depth of resources determines is such a limiting factor how do you explain Luton and Huddersfield?

We're taking about 2 missed penalties and some careless injury time goals conceded between us being 8th and in the play-offs. It is fine margins down to the details of games management and decision making. Is it not Mowbray's responsibility to instill that confidence, belief and dictate how we manage periods of matches?
This feels vaguely reminiscent of the kind of argument O1JW used to put across - it's not like a video game, where the manager is controlling the players with a joystick from the touchline. Please, go through the process of a player taking a penalty and explain why it falls on the manager if they miss? Is it down to Jedi mind control? A good gameplan could increase your chance of winning penalties, but the actual kick is all down to the taker and to a lesser extent the opposing goalkeeper. Likewise, you can have a gameplan to see out a game, but you still need the players to execute it. And if you're relying on young, inexperienced players, they're more likely to make mistakes - particularly when your opponents are throwing caution to the wind and putting you under more pressure.

This isn't just about Mowbray, it's the vast majority of clubs where most managers make rational decisions that would work another day but they either just don't have the luck or are simply up against a better team. We see it god knows how many times a season, where a manager is sacked to be replaced by another who encounters exactly the same issues and doesn't do any better. And the media and fans act like there's some mysterious science to winning games that somehow only the teams with the most money have managed to master. The reality is, managers don't have much control over the fine margins in games, and are just made scapegoats for others' failings and bloated expectations, because they're the easiest to get rid of. Maybe we should have a transfer window for managers too?

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