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by mrblackbat
Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:45 am
Forum: The Other Things in Life
Topic: Brexit....or in.
Replies: 728
Views: 35069

Re: Brexit....or in.

Yawn. Yet a general election is fine, right? What if the general election is won by remain parties? Same thing as a referendum, in reality. :shrug: I'm hoping you know that's a ridiculous argument to make, although it would explain why you can't grasp why the referendum campaigns weren't "promises"...
by mrblackbat
Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:34 pm
Forum: The Other Things in Life
Topic: Brexit....or in.
Replies: 728
Views: 35069

Re: Brexit....or in.

Yawn.

Yet a general election is fine, right?

What if the general election is won by remain parties? Same thing as a referendum, in reality. :shrug:
by mrblackbat
Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:54 pm
Forum: The Other Things in Life
Topic: Brexit....or in.
Replies: 728
Views: 35069

Re: Brexit....or in.

No they exist, acting on behalf of the people that voted them in, as they should. Conservative and Labour MPs did not get elected on manifestos stating they would seek a second referendum. :roll: The Tories had a memorable slogan, "no deal is better than a bad deal", which covers the ERG voting aga...
by mrblackbat
Thu Oct 24, 2019 3:14 pm
Forum: The Other Things in Life
Topic: Brexit....or in.
Replies: 728
Views: 35069

Re: Brexit....or in.

Yes, they had a different outcome in mind: not leaving the customs union or the single market. I don't believe I've ever suggested anything else.... Oh, you were talking about the ERG.... I think the argument that those who voted against May's deal because they want a supposedly impossible softer B...
by mrblackbat
Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:18 pm
Forum: The Other Things in Life
Topic: Brexit....or in.
Replies: 728
Views: 35069

Re: Brexit....or in.

Johnson and Rees Mogg are making very little attempt to compromise, and instead throwing their toys out every time they don't get their way. Had they and the ERG voted for May's deal at the first time of asking, we'd have left the EU already. So if you want to talk about cowardly, I think that's wh...
by mrblackbat
Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:03 am
Forum: The Other Things in Life
Topic: Brexit....or in.
Replies: 728
Views: 35069

Re: Brexit....or in.

I disagree, it's a completely moot point. The only question is how long the extension will be, rather than if there will be one. That extension gives time for a vote of no confidence or a general election, or even go through the legislative process of passing the deal (with all the amendments the ar...
by mrblackbat
Wed Oct 23, 2019 5:17 pm
Forum: The Other Things in Life
Topic: Brexit....or in.
Replies: 728
Views: 35069

Re: Brexit....or in.

If an EU state vetoes the extension, we would currently leave without a deal on the 31st; the only way to change that would be a vote of no confidence and revoke article 50. The EU's decision on that has always been something outside our control, and why in the past I've suggested it's impossible t...
by mrblackbat
Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:31 pm
Forum: The Other Things in Life
Topic: Brexit....or in.
Replies: 728
Views: 35069

Re: Brexit....or in.

We don't need an extension until January with a deal that has been backed by a majority in parliament in play. The deal has not been backed, despite what pro Brexit media are reporting. They voted for it to have a second reading and be subject to proper scrutiny. Some MPs have openly admitted to vo...
by mrblackbat
Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:30 pm
Forum: The Other Things in Life
Topic: Brexit....or in.
Replies: 728
Views: 35069

Re: Brexit....or in.

But it's not good for the country to have a PM who Parliament wants to fail. Couldn't agree more, and it's exactly how Johnson has set himself up from the start. If an EU state vetoes the extension, we would currently leave without a deal on the 31st; the only way to change that would be a vote of ...
by mrblackbat
Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:40 pm
Forum: The Other Things in Life
Topic: Brexit....or in.
Replies: 728
Views: 35069

Re: Brexit....or in.

And he does as he promised and throws his toys out and leaves it to the EU to decide whether to accept request for a delay.
by mrblackbat
Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:34 pm
Forum: The Other Things in Life
Topic: Brexit....or in.
Replies: 728
Views: 35069

Re: Brexit....or in.

Parliament votes to approve the deal in principal, but rejects the legislation timetable.

Not sure if Johnson has thrown his toys out yet....
by mrblackbat
Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:37 pm
Forum: The Other Things in Life
Topic: Brexit....or in.
Replies: 728
Views: 35069

Re: Brexit....or in.

More unacceptable behaviour.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50142367

I think Johnson must definitely have spent more time at home with his ball as a child than playing.....
by mrblackbat
Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:52 am
Forum: The Other Things in Life
Topic: Brexit....or in.
Replies: 728
Views: 35069

Re: Brexit....or in.

You're still arguing, I see.

:shrug:
by mrblackbat
Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:51 pm
Forum: The Other Things in Life
Topic: Brexit....or in.
Replies: 728
Views: 35069

Re: Brexit....or in.

So you don't think stating "we send the EU £350 million a week, let's fund our NHS instead" insinuates that you would spend that amount on the NHS? https://spectatorblogs.imgix.net/files/2017/10/GettyImages-576855022.jpg?auto=compress,enhance,format&crop=faces,entropy,edges&fit=crop&w=820&h=550 I su...