Bolton v Rovers, Tues 5th March 2013, 19:45 KO

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Re: Bolton v Rovers, Tues 5th March 2013, 19:45 KO

Postby mcteeth » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:41 pm

Rover the Top wrote:It's funny, I don't seem to recall us being all-conquering when Rochina and Formica were in the side or we only had one up front earlier in the season? :whistle:


What when we were higher up the division and closer to the play-offs with Formica playing right wing?

Rochina being used as an impact sub to actual provide a creative link between midfield and attack?

No you're right, we're much better off playing 2 strikers who do nothing all game except stare at the 40 yard gap between them and our midfield, and it is much better having Morris and Goodwillie on the bench instead of 2 players who can actually change a game... :roll:
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Re: Bolton v Rovers, Tues 5th March 2013, 19:45 KO

Postby Oxford Rover » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:45 pm

I do.
1st Place with kean.
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Re: Bolton v Rovers, Tues 5th March 2013, 19:45 KO

Postby Rover the Top » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:53 pm

mcteeth wrote:
Rover the Top wrote:It's funny, I don't seem to recall us being all-conquering when Rochina and Formica were in the side or we only had one up front earlier in the season? :whistle:


What when we were higher up the division and closer to the play-offs with Formica playing right wing?

Rochina being used as an impact sub to actual provide a creative link between midfield and attack?

No you're right, we're much better off playing 2 strikers who do nothing all game except stare at the 40 yard gap between them and our midfield, and it is much better having Morris and Goodwillie on the bench instead of 2 players who can actually change a game... :roll:

Makes me wonder why Kean and Berg didn't last, since we were doing so, so well under them... no, you must be right, we were nailed on to win the division until Appleton came in and ruined everything...

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Re: Bolton v Rovers, Tues 5th March 2013, 19:45 KO

Postby dwayne cage » Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:02 pm

I think Appleton needs more time. Whoever we have in charge they qill fail as we have a bunch of overpaid nobodies aa players.
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Re: Bolton v Rovers, Tues 5th March 2013, 19:45 KO

Postby Rover the Top » Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:09 pm

Oxford Rover wrote:I do.
1st Place with kean.

Formica and Rochina only started one of the games we won in those first 6 games. And Nuno Gomes worked as a very effective strike partner in a front two in that period - started 4 of the first 6 matches and made the difference as a sub in the other 2.

But thanks for playing. :)
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Re: Bolton v Rovers, Tues 5th March 2013, 19:45 KO

Postby Rover the Moon » Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:30 pm

Berg - univerally acclaimed as a terrible manager who had no chance to change the squad

P9 W1 D3 L5 F10 A16 Pts6 GD-6

Appleton - had one transfer window and used to it recruit several duckeggs who are mostly better than what we already had or got rid of (Jones looks ok only because the bar was set so monstrously low)

P9 W2 D3 L4 F5 A11 Pts9 GD-6

Scary

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Re: Bolton v Rovers, Tues 5th March 2013, 19:45 KO

Postby onlyonejackwalker » Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:05 pm

Rover the Moon wrote:Berg - univerally acclaimed as a terrible manager who had no chance to change the squad

P9 W1 D3 L5 F10 A16 Pts6 GD-6

Appleton - had one transfer window and used to it recruit several duckeggs who are mostly better than what we already had or got rid of (Jones looks ok only because the bar was set so monstrously low)

P9 W2 D3 L4 F5 A11 Pts9 GD-6

Scary

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What can't speak, can't lie. Appleton is trying to learn as he goes along and is currently struggling badly with his team selections, tactics, recruitments, results, league position, goals conceeded and chances / goals created. Hindered by all the historical nonsense that surrounds the club admittedly. 18 matches detailed above with only three wins and fiteen points accrued? :shock: Hard to defend these results with the most expensively compiled squad in the division.

I think you meant 'no' better however.
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Re: Bolton v Rovers, Tues 5th March 2013, 19:45 KO

Postby mrblackbat » Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:15 pm

Rover the Moon wrote:Berg - univerally acclaimed as a terrible manager who had no chance to change the squad

P9 W1 D3 L5 F10 A16 Pts6 GD-6

Appleton - had one transfer window and used to it recruit several duckeggs who are mostly better than what we already had or got rid of (Jones looks ok only because the bar was set so monstrously low)

P9 W2 D3 L4 F5 A11 Pts9 GD-6

Scary

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mrblackbat wrote:Everyone still prepared to mock me for saying this, still? Sigh.

mrblackbat wrote:Well I reckon we can kiss good bye to automatic promotion. More upheaval at the club, a new manager to be brought in, and to be completely honest nobody with any ability is going to want to rock up here. Nice one fans, probably fucked things up for us even more than they already were.


Just sayin'.
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Re: Bolton v Rovers, Tues 5th March 2013, 19:45 KO

Postby Rover the Top » Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:58 pm

onlyonejackwalker wrote:
Rover the Moon wrote:Berg - univerally acclaimed as a terrible manager who had no chance to change the squad

P9 W1 D3 L5 F10 A16 Pts6 GD-6

Appleton - had one transfer window and used to it recruit several duckeggs who are mostly better than what we already had or got rid of (Jones looks ok only because the bar was set so monstrously low)

P9 W2 D3 L4 F5 A11 Pts9 GD-6

Scary

See you in 2-6 months when the next manager search begins


What can't speak, can't lie.

Moon can't speak? :shock:
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Re: Bolton v Rovers, Tues 5th March 2013, 19:45 KO

Postby Simon » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:53 pm

mrblackbat wrote:
Rover the Moon wrote:Berg - univerally acclaimed as a terrible manager who had no chance to change the squad

P9 W1 D3 L5 F10 A16 Pts6 GD-6

Appleton - had one transfer window and used to it recruit several duckeggs who are mostly better than what we already had or got rid of (Jones looks ok only because the bar was set so monstrously low)

P9 W2 D3 L4 F5 A11 Pts9 GD-6

Scary

See you in 2-6 months when the next manager search begins


mrblackbat wrote:Everyone still prepared to mock me for saying this, still? Sigh.

mrblackbat wrote:Well I reckon we can kiss good bye to automatic promotion. More upheaval at the club, a new manager to be brought in, and to be completely honest nobody with any ability is going to want to rock up here. Nice one fans, probably fucked things up for us even more than they already were.


Just sayin'.


Come on - Kean wouldn't have got us promoted and was very fortunate to get the points he did based on those performances. However, we certainly haven't improved since he left and the real problem was the decision to stick with him in the summer when it was clear he should have gone.

mcteeth wrote:
Rover the Top wrote:It's funny, I don't seem to recall us being all-conquering when Rochina and Formica were in the side or we only had one up front earlier in the season? :whistle:


What when we were higher up the division and closer to the play-offs with Formica playing right wing?

Rochina being used as an impact sub to actual provide a creative link between midfield and attack?

No you're right, we're much better off playing 2 strikers who do nothing all game except stare at the 40 yard gap between them and our midfield, and it is much better having Morris and Goodwillie on the bench instead of 2 players who can actually change a game... :roll:


I'm disappointed Appleton is persisting with those 2 together up front. However, if we were to play 5 in the middle we'd all be moaning at how isolated Rhodes is.
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Re: Bolton v Rovers, Tues 5th March 2013, 19:45 KO

Postby Darth Rover » Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:12 pm

If it wasn't for a last minute goal from an ex dingle we would be talking a bit differently today. We would be talking about a decent display against an in form Bolton. Quite clearly they were lucky to win last night. Over a season the luck levels itself out and maybe we are now paying back the early season victories we had when we were still managed by the Scottish one. Performances over the season have been consistantly unconvincing and results are turning out to be the same. I prefer forget this game like many others and hope for better things this Sunday. I will be more disappointed to lose at Millwall than lose to a last minute goal at the reebok. Shit happens and we've have seen a lot of shit recently. Hopefully it will be someone else's turn to live with the shit this weekend and not us for a change.
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Re: Bolton v Rovers, Tues 5th March 2013, 19:45 KO

Postby mcteeth » Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:24 pm

Rover the Top wrote:
mcteeth wrote:
Rover the Top wrote:It's funny, I don't seem to recall us being all-conquering when Rochina and Formica were in the side or we only had one up front earlier in the season? :whistle:


What when we were higher up the division and closer to the play-offs with Formica playing right wing?

Rochina being used as an impact sub to actual provide a creative link between midfield and attack?

No you're right, we're much better off playing 2 strikers who do nothing all game except stare at the 40 yard gap between them and our midfield, and it is much better having Morris and Goodwillie on the bench instead of 2 players who can actually change a game... :roll:

Makes me wonder why Kean and Berg didn't last, since we were doing so, so well under them... no, you must be right, we were nailed on to win the division until Appleton came in and ruined everything...

:roll:


You're taken my comments out of context. I'm simply pointing to the fact that our squad is weaker for the fact that we've decided to loan two decent players out.

I'd be seriously concerned if anyone chose to play Pedersen on the right wing ahead of Formica, and given our injuries we'd really use him there currently.

Likewise to have Rochina as an option on the bench instead of Morris or Goodwillie, who is far more likely to provide a creative option.

I'm also not implying that Appleton should be sacked, just that he has made some errors with regards to transfers and team selection, which he has.
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Re: Bolton v Rovers, Tues 5th March 2013, 19:45 KO

Postby Dan » Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:45 pm

Rover the Top wrote:
onlyonejackwalker wrote:
Rover the Moon wrote:Berg - univerally acclaimed as a terrible manager who had no chance to change the squad

P9 W1 D3 L5 F10 A16 Pts6 GD-6

Appleton - had one transfer window and used to it recruit several duckeggs who are mostly better than what we already had or got rid of (Jones looks ok only because the bar was set so monstrously low)

P9 W2 D3 L4 F5 A11 Pts9 GD-6

Scary

See you in 2-6 months when the next manager search begins


What can't speak, can't lie.

Moon can't speak? :shock:


Wow - I've just flicked over to BBC Four whilst reading this and I finally know who your avatar is :D
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Re: Bolton v Rovers, Tues 5th March 2013, 19:45 KO

Postby Gibbon » Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:15 am

mcteeth wrote:You're taken my comments out of context. I'm simply pointing to the fact that our squad is weaker for the fact that we've decided to loan two decent players out.

I'd be seriously concerned if anyone chose to play Pedersen on the right wing ahead of Formica, and given our injuries we'd really use him there currently.

Likewise to have Rochina as an option on the bench instead of Morris or Goodwillie, who is far more likely to provide a creative option.

I'm also not implying that Appleton should be sacked, just that he has made some errors with regards to transfers and team selection, which he has.


Not sure why we're discussing Rochina as though he didn't ask to leave. Formica and Vukcevic though, we could have done with them.
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Re: Bolton v Rovers, Tues 5th March 2013, 19:45 KO

Postby Rover Ryan » Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:12 am

Gibbon wrote:
mcteeth wrote:You're taken my comments out of context. I'm simply pointing to the fact that our squad is weaker for the fact that we've decided to loan two decent players out.

I'd be seriously concerned if anyone chose to play Pedersen on the right wing ahead of Formica, and given our injuries we'd really use him there currently.

Likewise to have Rochina as an option on the bench instead of Morris or Goodwillie, who is far more likely to provide a creative option.

I'm also not implying that Appleton should be sacked, just that he has made some errors with regards to transfers and team selection, which he has.


Not sure why we're discussing Rochina as though he didn't ask to leave. Formica and Vukcevic though, we could have done with them.

Ultimately it was up to Appleton who stays or goes. It seemed he didn't do enough to keep Ruben here. I think Simon was a mutual decision to release him and was probably for the best if his issues are true. Formica I just don't get why.
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